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Post by Dick Glasgow on Jul 1, 2007 10:25:46 GMT 1
Webster's Dictionary give s this definition of a Hammered Dulcimer: Websters { ... with a little help from Nikita!  } also gives us the following European names for the Hammered Dulcimer:I must say, I'm tempted to start calling mine a "Kishtey Bing" from now on!  The Dulcimer Hammer: |
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Post by dulcimike on Jul 2, 2007 2:31:13 GMT 1
Webster's Dictionary gives this definition of a Hammered Dulcimer: Websters also gives us the following European names for the Hammered Dulcimer:I must say, I'm tempted to start calling mine a "Kishtey Bing" from now on! Hmmm. So, what if it starts cruning a song and wants to do it "My Way"? Still want to call it "Bing"? I must say, I'm attracted to that name, myself. Probably the best of all I've ever seen. "Ah, now, I'll just have to get me Kishtey Bing oot o' tha boot o' tha car." |
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Post by Nikita on Jul 12, 2007 10:38:03 GMT 1
Hi Dick !
to that list you can add :
Italian: Dolcemelo,
French : Doulcemelle.
French : Pantalon (XVIIIth century name)
Spanish : Psalterio (I have a fac simile of "Minues para psalterio"... but then the instrument was plucked, and not struck by hammers...
Klezmer : Tsimbl
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Post by Dick Glasgow on Jul 12, 2007 10:49:18 GMT 1
Thanks Nikita, I've added those names.
Cheers
Dick
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Post by Nikita on Jul 13, 2007 12:08:09 GMT 1
Ho, and if you find records of baroque music with HD (groups like the "Arpeggiata") you'll see it named psalterion...
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Post by Dick Glasgow on Jul 13, 2007 12:44:53 GMT 1
Interesting Nikita. I love that word Psalterion.
Of course, I like all those words which start with a silent P
I found the Arpeggiata - Website & Arpeggiata - MySpace
I also found six great YouTube Videos of this group, which are well worth checking out on the Video BoardThanks Nikita, for letting me know about this group.
This a fascinating group of musicians, not to mention all those wonderful instruments they are playing. It's great to hear the Hackbrett being played in that setting.
I'd never have found their YouTubes otherwise, cause they don't actually name the Hackbrett in their notes.
Cheers
Dick |
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Post by Nikita on Jul 18, 2007 13:00:40 GMT 1
Yaeh, Dick, it's a indeed a wondeful group ! such musicality... and they have the luxury of two hackbretts ! one a salzburger, and the other I don't know, maybe it's a copy of a XVIIth or XVIIIth century model...
And if you like that kind of music, try Caldara : Cantate, sonate and Arie, with Margit Uberlacker on hackbrett : just amazing !
all the best
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Post by Dick Glasgow on Oct 10, 2007 13:15:06 GMT 1
Speaking of names for the Hammered Dulcimer I just spotted this post over at ED, made by jt3d, which I found very interesting & thought you might enjoy reading it too.Jim, perhaps this tune should be your next musical project: I'm a Lumberjack & I'm OK ;D |
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Post by carkner on Oct 30, 2007 17:03:57 GMT 1
The french names are interesting... as someone who speaks french, I had never heard of any name in french for them, and merely heard it called Tympanon Frappé in some article online once. (Everything "official" in Canada is translated into french, so it just happens that this english article was translated. Maybe the translator was scratching his head and just coined the term on the spot..?)
The Doulcemelle thing is interesting, I'd never heard that before this board. Funny to think that I couldn't even think of a name in French for a dulcimer, and in fact the English name *comes* from French. And as for "Pantalon", haha...
For the ukrainian name, why doesn't it say Cymbaly/Tsymbaly though?
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Post by Dick Glasgow on Oct 30, 2007 20:19:11 GMT 1
Good point Carkner 
..... it does now!
Cheers
Dick
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Post by Nikita on Oct 31, 2007 19:04:29 GMT 1
Carkner wrote:Doulcemelle means "sweet melody" in medieval french. It was also the name of a keyboard device you could put on a tympanon or psalterion, like a very primitive piano... $ As for Pantalon, the story is nice : there was a very famous hackbrett player in the 18th century, a touring virtuoso who went from royal court to royal court all over europe, performing music. He had a huge instrument, said to have five fully chromatic octaves (that completely disppeared, unfortunately), with gut (?)  strings. He was called Pantaleon Hebenstreit (google his name if you want more infos) When he arrived in Versailles, the King Louis the 14th, who was a great music lover, was so charmed by the instrument and the player, that he ordered the instrument to be called the "Pantalon" ; 
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Post by gypsy on Nov 19, 2007 5:30:58 GMT 1
"Manx - Kishtey Bing" so would the hammers for same be the kishty bangers? and i can't stand it...........Tympanon Frappé ...........can i order one at Starbucks? slinkingoffcuzsheistoopunchytonight...............
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Post by Nikita on Nov 19, 2007 16:42:34 GMT 1
Kishty Bangers.... wonderful name for a group, no ? ;D and Tympanon Frappé... I don't know it in English, but in my parts a Frappé is an Ice cream ball mixed in milk... what would "tympanon" ice cream taste like  ;D |
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Post by Dick Glasgow on Nov 19, 2007 16:55:11 GMT 1
I think it's a welsh dish - Kishty Bangers .... & Mash! ;D
I've absolutely no idea what Tympanon Ice Cream would taste like, but I'd certainly give it a try!
Cheers
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strings. He was called Pantaleon Hebenstreit (google his name if you want more infos) When he arrived in Versailles, the King Louis the 14th, who was a great music lover, was so charmed by the instrument and the player, that he ordered the instrument to be called the "Pantalon" 
