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Post by jack on Jul 4, 2010 13:47:22 GMT 1
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Post by Nikita on Jul 9, 2010 17:43:52 GMT 1
Great Jack ! Wish i'd be there... Yang quin players are just awesome... when I toured in China some years ago (2003, I think), I bought a tuition book... all in chinese, and for a long time I thought it was written for 2 instruments, till a chinese friend translated the notes for me, and I discovered it was solo pieces... I'm always looking for the extra 2 arms they must have to be able to play that... joking, but htey are impressive. And the Yang quin notes display is quite interesting... (I put it somewhere on this board...) by the way, I'll be in Scotland in august... Sabhal Mor Ostaig and around the Highlands cheers
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Post by jack on Jul 11, 2010 11:30:16 GMT 1
Thanks Nikita, unfortunately it looks like the workshop might be cancelled through lack of interest. They need a minimum of 3 people to go ahead and so far it's only me.
Remember, if you are passing Glasgow on a Saturday or Thursday afternoon there's a session that would welcome a hackbrett. My house is only a couple of minutes off the M74 if you need a coffee break.
Jack
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Post by jenny4dulc on Aug 5, 2010 10:08:32 GMT 1
A pity about that - I'd have thought there'd be enough interest amongst all the musicians there must be in the area! I'll post details of something similar but about the Indian santoor i the appropriate place on this site. Jenny
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Post by jack on Aug 5, 2010 11:29:21 GMT 1
Hi Jenny, it's worked out quite well. I met up with Kimho last week and we had a look at each others instruments and played a couple of tunes together. I got to try a Yang Qin, saved myself £125 and Kimho has asked me to play in a concert of Chinese/Scottish music at the end of August.
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Post by jack on Sept 3, 2010 16:34:43 GMT 1
Well, the concert was last Saturday. It was a really good night. The Harmony Chinese Music Ensemble were playing in the Canongate Kirk, a beautiful old church on the Royal Mile. I only got to meet the other musicians on the day of the concert and, as well as being great musicians, they were a really nice bunch and made me feel welcome. Chinese music was completely new to me and I really enjoyed playing two Chinese tunes with the Ensemble. During the second half of the concert there was a "Dulcimer set". I played a solo, Kimho played a solo on Yang Qin then we played a duet. There's a photo of the concert here, harmonyensemble.co.uk/photos/
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Post by Dick Glasgow on Sept 7, 2010 9:20:35 GMT 1
Great photo Jack. One to show the grandchildren eh! ..... or were they in the audience anyway? Interesting to compare the Hammers & even the style of using them. Cheers Dick
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Post by jack on Sept 10, 2010 9:30:56 GMT 1
No grandchildren yet but my wife was there. Lesley got roped into collecting tickets at the door but she still managed to catch most of the concert. The hammers make quite a difference to the sound. Kimho found if he used his hammers on my dulcimer it sounded more like a yang qin and using my hammers on his yang qin sounded more like a dulcimer. Kimho explained how yang qin players get a tremolo with their left hand while playing individual notes with the right hand. They open and close their grip on the hammer. Good examples of this can be seen by the girl in red in this video, www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4avT5mmFec
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Post by Dick Glasgow on Sept 10, 2010 10:13:55 GMT 1
Interesting Jack, especially when you read so often of players who dislike the use of this form of ornamentation, despite the fact that is so characteristic of the music of instruments like the Santur & Yang Chin.
Of course, like any form of ornamentation, one must be careful not to overdo using any one form in any one tune, for fear of making it sound boring. Also, the ornamentation one uses should be kept within the tradition of the music you are playing, which is one of the joys of learning another's music & trying to adopt their forms & use of ornamentation, without which, the music just would not sound authentic.
Reminds me of when The Chieftains were trying to play Chinese Music, but of course, well to me at least, it never sounded any more than Irish Musicians playing Chinese tunes, but then perhaps that's all they were trying to do, anyway.
Maybe it's a bit like accents when we live away from our homes, nice to pick up a few little colloquialism, but surely we always want to hang onto our own accents, which of course help to define who we are.
Cheers Dick
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Post by jack on Sept 10, 2010 15:41:24 GMT 1
Funny you should mention the Chieftains. One of the tunes we played was "Full of Joy", the one the Chieftains played. ;D Some of the Chinese tunes are not that unlike Scottish or Irish tunes, it's the ornamentation and phrasing that really identifies them as Chinese. I read somewhere that Chinese music is Heterophonic, "the simultaneous performance of the same melodic line, with slight individual variations, by two or more performers. " Sounds like an Irish session to me.
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Post by jenny4dulc on Aug 7, 2012 12:31:05 GMT 1
Not been on here for a long time to have a look round, but really enjoyed reading all about the Edinburgh workshops and lloking uup the photo and video. Thanks Jack and Dick
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Post by jenny4dulc on Aug 7, 2012 12:32:15 GMT 1
Ooops - I meant looking up.
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